Unauthorized Issues of Kecoughtan Lodge 463

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REAL (463s10)
Brotherhood Lodge Flap

FAKE (463 z1s)
Brotherhood Lodge Flap

Have? - is the patch in my collection?
BB98 - issue number in Blue Book 1998 edition
AR2K - issue number in Arapaho 2000 edition
GODBY - issue as determined by Ron Godby
BDR - emblem border color
Year - date of issue

This web site is dedicated to the memory of E. Bailey Tudder, longtime Kecoughtan Lodge Advisor, and Dr. Ron Godby, former 463 Arrowman and co-author of the most comprehensive reference on Lodge 463 emblem issues.

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Unauthorized Issues of Kecoughtan Lodge
Have	BB98	AR2K	BDR	E	BKG	Comments
Yes	-	-	BLK	C	BLK	Modern reproduction of 463 R5, the round hat patch originally issued in 1993. NOTE: These patches were first encountered in eBay auctions in March of 2011. Major differences are visible in these enlarged comparison pictures. Front / Reverse
Yes	-	-	RED	C	GRY	Modern reproduction of 463 A6, the 25th Anniversary arrowhead patch originally issued in 1976. NOTE: These patches were first encountered in eBay auctions in March of 2011. Major differences are visible in these enlarged comparison pictures. Front / Reverse
Yes	QS1	Z1S	BLK	R	WHT	25th Anniv., WHT W's, no stitch around acorn (aka S4.5) NOTE: Sam Fairchild, Adult Advisor to the Lodge 463 25th Anniversary Committee, says this patch was in fact never rejected by the Lodge and is not an unauthorized issue. Compare this to 463 S4 and S5 flaps which were issued to commemorate the Lodge's 25th Anniversary in 1976. I am still seeking details about the circumstances surrounding this issue.
Yes	ZS1	Z2S	LGY	R	BLK	Computer designed reproduction of S10 NOTE: These flaps were first discovered at the 1989 National Scout Jamboree. Major differences are listed below and visible in this enlarged picture.
REAL (463s10) Brotherhood Lodge Flap						FAKE (463 z1s) Brotherhood Lodge Flap
white outline stitching has small amount of black space next to acorns and flags						white outline stitching is tight and close to acorns and flags.
large "W" in center acorn has a pointed center peak						large "W" in middle acorn has a flat center peak
FDL in center acorn is wider and has one dimensional appearance (not 3 segments)						FDL in center acorn is skinny with 3 discernable components (center and 2 side parts)
stars on flag are not well defined, hard to see "points"						stars on flags are sharp and defined, each with 5 points
number "6" in "463" is blocky (not rounded)						number "6" in "463" is rounded
top brotherhood bar above the arrow does not touch the flag on the left side						top brotherhood bar above the arrow touches the flag on the left side
Yes	N/A	N/A	none	C	BLK	This mystery patch appears to be an unfinished prototype of a 463 Brotherhood flap. It does not have an FDL, and the original owner of it claims to have come into possession of it in the late 70's, which predates the ZS1 by over 15 years. See this page for more details and enlarged photographs.
No	ZC1	Z3C	BLK	C	BLK	Repro of C1-Acorn shape chenille with canvas back. See comparison picture here.
Yes	N/A	N/A	R	C	M/C	Crude cut edge reproduction of X15 oval 40th anniversary patch that was issued in 1991. Offered on eBay as fake in Feb. 2004. Seller claims only two exist.
Have? - is the patch in my collection? BB98 - issue number in Blue Book 1998 edition AR2K - issue number in Arapaho 2000 edition GODBY - issue as determined by Ron Godby BDR - emblem border color Year - date of issue						BKG - emblem background color CB - cloth back CD - computer designed E - edge type (usually Rolled or Cut) FDL - fleur de-lis PB - plastic back
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This web site is dedicated to the memory of E. Bailey Tudder, longtime Kecoughtan Lodge Advisor, and Dr. Ron Godby, former 463 Arrowman and co-author of the most comprehensive reference on Lodge 463 emblem issues. The Kecoughtan Lodge 463 Emblems web site was created by Glenn Chase on an Apple Macintosh with absolutely zero Microsoft products. All images presented are protected with a digital watermark, and are the exclusive property of Glenn Chase, all rights reserved, unless otherwise noted. No commercial usage of these images is allowed without prior consent. Please send corrections/additions/suggestions to . This page was last updated on: Mar 22, 2011, 01:03 AM
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